The Price of
Healthcare Podcast
Each episode is a conversation with the people who are working to make American healthcare a functioning market.
A system that bankrupts people: Why good care wasn't reason enough to stay
with Steve Borene, Co-founder and CEO, Renovo Health
Dr. Steve Borene left legacy hospital systems to co-found Renovo Health, a direct-pay surgery center in Wisconsin. He explains where its savings come from and what employers can do with them.
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6 episodes A system that bankrupts people: Why good care wasn't reason enough to stay
with Steve Borene
Dr. Steve Borene left legacy hospital systems to co-found Renovo Health, a direct-pay surgery center in Wisconsin. He explains where its savings come from and what employers can do with them.
How Montana's state health plan climbed from near-insolvency to $112 million in reserves
with Marilyn Bartlett
Marilyn Bartlett took Montana's state employee health plan from near-insolvency to $112 million in reserves. She explains how employers can follow their healthcare dollars, from claims data to hospital costs.
How employers are taking control of healthcare costs in the modern benefits market
with Jeff Hogan
Jeff Hogan runs forensic reviews of employer health plan contracts. He explains where the money leaks, what fiduciary law now demands of plan sponsors, and the first moves a self-insured employer can make.
Unpacking the mechanics and award sizes of the IDR process
with Tia Goss Sawhney
Actuary Tia Goss Sawhney unpacks the No Surprises Act's independent dispute resolution process: how qualifying payment amounts are set, why awards run so high, and what self-funded employers can do.
From a sketch to a rule: the origins of price transparency
with Randy Pate
Randy Pate helped write the federal price transparency rules at CMS. He walks through the original theory behind them, what the first pass got wrong, and what the data can accomplish for buyers today.
Welcome to The Price of Healthcare Podcast
with Jerry DiMaso, Jacob Little
Payerset co-founders Jerry DiMaso and Jacob Little on why they launched The Price Transparency Project, how the data has matured since 2022, and what to expect from the conversations ahead.
The people behind the prices
Every episode goes deep with leaders across the spectrum of healthcare finance. You'll hear what it's like to be at the table in a real negotiation, the stories behind policy, and evidence that change can happen when employers are equipped to ask the right questions.
No one side of the house is going to fix healthcare pricing. It begins with listening to every stakeholder. Only then can we learn from each other, compromise, and build the healthcare system America deserves.
Providers
Health system CFOs, managed care and revenue cycle leaders, and people at the forefront of healthcare finance innovation.
Employers
Self-funded employers, benefits advisors, and the plan fiduciaries who are fighting to rein in ever-growing costs.
Advocates and policy makers
Researchers, journalists, and the analysts shining light on a broken system to influence change.
The market only works when prices are visible
Join the practitioners, policymakers, and advocates building a transparent healthcare system.